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Wednesday, February 01, 2006

Freecom DVB-T USB TV Receiver

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I've wanted to investigate a PVR (Personal Video Recorder) solution for a while as we never use the video due to the crap quality of the aerial it's connected to and the pain of programming it. SKY+ doesn't appeal due to the extra cost and the fact that anything on SKY is generally repeated 10 times a day anyway.

Having seen Lewis' mightily impressive Media Centre set-up with a 42" plasma in his livingroom I realised my requirements were a lot more modest. So, to help with a buying decision, I had to figure out exactly how I planned to use a PVR device and to what ends.

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We have a Freeview box in our bedroom and was loathe to replace it with a Freeview PVR box with hard drive. Dual tuners didn't appeal as we have quite enough TVs in the house to negate any need to watch a programme while recording another. All I needed was a device to record the odd film off the freeview channels, burn them to DVD and fire up the home cinema (I love my home cinema :-) There's usually some great classics on Channel 4 after lunch (while I'm at work), just my type of film. The BBC and ITV channels also show some gems I'd like to record and watch at leisure when I'm in my bed

Ideally I wanted to utilise the existing computer power I have stacked in my Home Office. I'd investigated PCI cards like the Hauppage TV Tuner/Capture devices but had been overwhelmed by the range on offer. I wanted something small, easily fitted with Freeview and well reviewed. After some digging around various forums and websites I settled on the Freecom DVB-T USB Stick Freeview Receiver, a bargain at under £40.

We had a new aerial installed to service the TV in our bedroom and sun lounge, and as my home office shares a wall with the bedroom, splitting the co-ax and feeding into the new device for maximum signal strength wasn't an issue. The only other negative comments usually mentioned about the Freecom concern the crap software bundled with the device. While this software does indeed look like crap (some cheap shareware, homebrew type thing) it does do the job. If all you want to do is watch some TV on your computer with minimum hassle I'd say stick with it. But I was more interested in using the device to record TV and then burn to DVD therefore a more friendlier EPG (Electronic Programme Guide) and recording set-up was required (though once again the supplied software does do the job albeit in an ugly way).

Researching, installing, configuring and then using alternative software turned out to be the biggest headache by far. Research showed that to use any other 3rd party software I needed to install BDA drivers for the device. This required some quite detailed steps to uninstall the Freecom software and drivers before installing compatible BDA drivers. Full instructions and the required drivers can be found by reading this forum thread. The viewer software which can be downloaded as well is slightly better than the Freecom deal but not much. Once you've got your device up and running with the BDA drivers you're able to select from a huge range of software (both free and commercial) to better manage the recording, time-shifting, scheduling etc.

First up was Showshifter which regularly wins magazine plaudits as the best alternative to Microsoft's Windows Media Centre. I downloaded the trial and after a tortuous install and configuration I was up and running. It offers the same features found in MCE which personally I didn't want (DVD, slideshows, radio, music as well as TV) but it did work well. Unfortunately after my trial expired it was announced that the company that owns Showshifter had gone bust. While they are trading under the administrators I'd advise you to give them a wide berth. Development and support are non-existant currently. Save your money, avoid.

Next up I tried the open source Media Portal confident I could overcome the patchy documentation associated with open source. Sadly, it crashed too much even during configuration so I deleted it before I had it fully set up. Buggy as hell it may be a contender in a while but avoid for now.

I really wanted software which focused on a neat EPG, easy set-up and configuration of scheduled recording without all the superfluous media centre bloat. This led me to try Webscheduler. Bingo, this looked ideal, donationware as well :)

DVB Web Scheduler is a Television capture and scheduling tool for scheduling unattended recordings of free to air Television programs using one or more DVB-T tuner devices.

Install was quick and painless but I had to update my java install to the latest version before it would work. Everything is controlled through a web browser and looks good for it. It found my Freecom automatically and a channel scan brought up all the available Freeview channels in the UK. A quick test of a 3 minute recording and everything worked well. I configured the software to record using DVR-MS (Microsoft Media Centre TV format) but you can select or install other MUX's as you require.

To configure the EPG you must provide Webscheduler with a .xml file containing the programme information. To create this file I used xmltv and configured it to grab the data from the Radio Times server (warning: DOS program, happy days). Webscheduler can be configured to grab and compile this information automatically once you know what you're doing. If you regularly work late you can even schedule a recording over the net to your home computer, neat eh?

Remember though, that Websheduler will only handle the capture of TV data you will need a separate programme to view live TV (I use the software downloaded from the site containing the BDA drivers) and I'm investigating other alternatives available for this as well but that's for another post along with software to convert the video for DVD burning, ripping out the advert breaks etc.

So, there you have it, a lovely little PVR for under £40. Any questions or if you need help setting up your Freecom DVB-T stick for the UK then leave a comment.

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31 Comments:

  • Thanks for the info but I have a couple of questions.

    1. How on earth do you unistall the origianl Freecom sofwtare. When I run add/remove software from control panl it seems to go but I'm sure the device and/or drivers are still there somewhere as if I reboot and plug the usb back in it does not look for a new device ...help !

    2. I've heard a lot about the BDA drivers but the link you showed is now dead so not sure where to get the correct drivers from ?

    3. Re a media centre have you tries GBPVR..www.gbpvr.com.. it has a lot of fans ( if I could get the BDA driver to work with the stick ! )

    Cheers

    Peter

    By Blogger Media Newbie, at 9 March 2006 16:08  

  • The key to uninstalling the Freecom drivers to work with the BDA drivers is to locate the DVB-T stick on a different USB port on your computer. You must plug the device into a diffrent port.

    The BDA drivers can be found here:

    BDA Drivers

    It appears that the Yakumo viewer software is now no longer available so you'll need a different program for that. I've settled on DVB Viewer costing less than £11 for all my viewing, EPG and PVR needs (I need to write a post about this). Fantastic bit of software when used with the Freecom device. Saves direct to mpeg as well :)

    Rest assured, all the instructions you need are in the thread I linked to, it just takes a bit of work but it's worth it.

    Hope this helps.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 12 March 2006 13:31  

  • Thanks Ricky for your very informative blog.

    I have a freecom DVB-T stick and would like to use another piece of software with this, such as DB viewer. I would be grateful if you had some instructions on how I go about getting this to work?

    Thanks
    Regards
    Michael

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 20 April 2006 21:13  

  • Hi Michael,

    All the instructions for installing the BDA drivers can be found by following the links I've provided. Once you start to install your viewer software go as far as you can and I'll help when you're stuck on a certain point.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 28 May 2006 13:08  

  • i dont know if you know this but think yourself lucky if you bought this device last year because any dated after feb 06 use new firmware which is supposed to stop them dieing when there is a small voltage on the arial but it stops you using the BDA drivers. unfortunatly i have one of these new sticks :-(

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 29 May 2006 22:27  

  • Hi Ricky

    Thanks for your reply to my last comment.

    Well I have had one last try at installing the DB viewer software.

    I followed the instructions in installing the BDA driver religiously as the thread.

    This all worked ok and the USB digital TV receiver is showing as working correctly under device manager.

    However I think Yakumo have changed the BDA driver since you installed it, ie there is no longer another zip file called quickstick_treiber.zip as mentioned in the thread.

    Also as you mentioned Yakumo no longer provide their viewer software.

    I installed the transedit mmc software from db viwer initially. Set the type to terrestrial and then hit scan button. It just sits there and does not pick up any stations.

    Same when I install the DB viewer application it does not pick up any stations.

    So it looks like someone else said in your comment Yakumo or freecom have got wise to all this and it is no longer possible to get the current BDA driver to work????

    Bugger, bugger. I shelled out £11 for the DB viewer software and cannot get it to work. They will not give me a refund and their support is not very good - ie not interested!!

    Looks like I am stuck with the Freecom software???

    So I have a big, big, very big favour to ask you - would you be kind enough to send me the original Yakumo BDA driver you used and their viewer software so that I can test if it works, if you still have it.

    I was also diagnosed with M.E/CFS over 10 yrs ago and am now pretty much fully recovered, so I can offer a lot of impartial advice if you are interested???

    Thanks for your help and very helpful blog

    Regards

    Michael

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 30 July 2006 08:19  

  • Hello,

    Great blog. You say that recording to DVD with the existing software is possible. Could you please explain how? It records in MPEG2 format but when I want to burn it in Nero, it talks of Video_TS and Audio_TS?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 30 July 2006 15:38  

  • 31/07/06, Just back from a quick weekend break.

    I actually had reason to reinstall my Freecom stick from scratch a couple of weeks ago and I too had a hell of a job getting it to work with the bda drivers, Yakumo's viewer software and finally my viewer of choice DVBViewer. But... it does work when you know how :)

    I'll write a quick tutorial on how I got it working and link to it in a couple of days as there does seem to be continued interest/difficulty in using this great little device.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 31 July 2006 17:11  

  • OK great Ricky thanks

    Do you know that finally Freecom have issued BDA drivers on their website - hoorah.

    Or so I thought..... I tried for many hours to get this to work to no avail. The drivers load fine, no problem, but I could not get any of my software to pick this up - namely DBviewer, Cyberlink powermedia, or ProgDVB.

    I posted a comment on their support forum and sure enough many other people are also having problems.

    I am really beginning to wonder if there are different versions of this stick - it seems that some people have no problems at all in getting the BDA drivers to work and some others, like me, have all sorts of problems.

    I also noted that Freecom are now issuing Arcsoft total media software with these sticks. So I wrote to them and they are kindly sending me a cd with the new software on. Thats nice only problem now is to get it to work.... :)

    Thanks for all your help Ricky and I look forward to reading and trying out your link when its posted.

    Have a nice day

    Adios

    Michael

    PS in case you are wondering I used to be an IT network manager and so am very very IT literate, yet this one problem has almost got me beat (almost, but I never give up!!!)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 31 July 2006 20:22  

  • Haven't forgot about you, just been busy. As Freecom have finally released BDA drivers for their DVB-T stick, hurrah, and the fact I'm planning to do a complete WindowsXP reinstall this weekend I will fully document how I get on with installing my Freecom DVB-T from scratch along with installing DVBViewer, scanning for channels adding station logos etc. Wish me luck ;)

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 9 August 2006 22:00  

  • I have a Nov' 05 version of the Stick and that works with WDM driver but has been a nightmare to try and get working with anything else including GB-PVR etc.

    I wouldn't hold much hope of it working with the arcsoft given my predicament.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 22 August 2006 21:26  

  • Forgot to say on last post, I am not stupid and very IT literate (I do a lot of VB).

    I am definitely using the BDA driver in case you wondered....
    it just wont scan in any s/w and seems to be quite unstable. Thats with the Yakumo version driver also, which seems basically the same.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 22 August 2006 21:27  

  • WebScheduler link doesn't work. But I found it at http://www.digtv.no-ip.com/webscheduler/

    Thanks for the detailed blog and comments. Having a hard time getting mine to work, but will persist.

    By Blogger tinglai, at 18 October 2006 23:29  

  • Any update on this guys? Did you manage to get it to work?

    Again, no problems installing Freecom's BDA drivers, but getting any software to acknowledge the existence of the hardware is impossible.

    By Anonymous Karl, at 30 January 2007 10:06  

  • Hi Karl,

    One thing to try from my experience is move the Freecom unit to a different USB port on your computer. This worked for me when it looked like the drivers were installed OK but when moved to a different USB port an additional driver device was installed and my software, DVBViewer, then acknowledged the Freecom's existence.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 30 January 2007 21:23  

  • Hi Ricky,

    Still no joy unfortunately. I've followed the uninstall and reinstall procedure to the letter, and tried different usb ports aswell.

    Installing the BDA drivers off the Freecom 'site is no trouble, but nothing will accept that it's there, not even DVBViewer.

    I've been building pc's for 8 years, nothing has frustrated me so much as this.

    Freecom support are also nigh on useless. I've contacted them twice now, and still no response.

    Just for info, I too have a November 2005 stick, which I'm probably going to throw in the fire...

    By Anonymous Karl, at 3 February 2007 15:20  

  • Oh, I suppose it's worth a mention... I lost the original software cd that came with my usb stick. I've tried the newer cd software package which a friend of mine lent to me (with the Arcsoft sotware) but that didn't work.

    I'd be quite happy to use the old Freecom software which I have asked them to send me, but no joy as of yet.

    By Anonymous Karl, at 3 February 2007 15:39  

  • Hi - I've also been trying to get my stick to work with the BDA drivers.

    Mine's a Sept 05 stick, and I seem to be getting further than the rest of you...in that I've got the drivers installed, and detected by various different software packages (TotalMedia, MediaPortal, DVBViewer, gbpvr), just can't get more than 3-4 seconds of picture or sound before the picture freezes and the sound cuts out.

    The software doesn't hang, as I can still switch channels, but I have to switch frequencies before I get any picture and sound again - but only for a few seconds before it cuts out again.

    I've uninstalled the drivers several times, so my basic tips are:
    1) Unplug the stick BEFORE you uninstall the drivers.
    2) Download the BDA drivers from the Freecom support pages.
    3) Unpack everything and run the uninstall utility.
    4) When it confirms it's removed everything - including the Freecom viewer software, then reboot.
    5) When you're machine's back up and running, re-plug in the stick
    6) Manually select the install location - i.e. the folder where you unpacked the BDA drivers.
    7) Drivers should install in a similar fashion to the original WDM drivers, i.e. with warnings.

    I've logged a support call with Freecom, and they have so far suggested a Windows XP patch, but this didn't work...

    Sitll holding out hope of getting this working.

    By Anonymous Paul I, at 7 February 2007 18:42  

  • Update:

    Got the original software through from Freecom today via email.

    At least it's useable again.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7 February 2007 18:42  

  • Hi guys. I have been watching the comments and would like to add that I am using XP MCE 2005. Arcsoft works with Freecom, but not MCE nor anyother TV viewers - they just can't find the stick (or saying no TV card installed/found).

    The fact that Arcsoft TotalMedia is working tells me I have installed the BDA driver correctly, right ? So why other packages can't see it ? Freecom only appears in the sound, video and game controller hardware devices, is this right ?

    I have tried all suggested method in this forum butno luck. The only problem with Totalmedia is that it takes ages to change channels. Any help/advice will be appreciated.

    By Blogger Eric, at 9 February 2007 21:35  

  • Hi. I managed to install the Freecom USB together with the ArcSoft application quite flawlessly.
    However when scanning no channles were found.
    I tried the same at another place and there it works so nothing's wrong with the device itself.
    But the ArcSoft does not give any info on the channels found (apart from their names)in terms of frequency, program PID's, and so on (all available in the Terratec USB device)
    Is there any (free) monitoring tool using BDA drivers that could help sorting out this?

    By Anonymous geert, at 14 February 2007 14:10  

  • Hi Geert,

    You could use Transedit MMC to scan for channels. It'll scan the airwaves and list channel names, frequencies,PID etc

    It's free as a demo to see if DVBViewer will work (it does for me with my Freecom) and I highly recommend DVBViewer as a PVR program.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 14 February 2007 21:26  

  • The Transedit MMC program is halfway down the page of the link I gave above, 0.5Mb download.

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 14 February 2007 21:31  

  • Thanks Ricky.
    This was just what I'm looking for.
    Tested and worked fine.

    By Anonymous geert.de.raeve, at 16 February 2007 11:06  

  • Dear Ricky,

    I'm stil struggling with the following:
    Use TransEdit scan program I can see all the DVB-T channels (although we have very little in Belgium and where I am located I have to use an amplifier e.g. Konig DVB-T USB antenna with +20dB gain) i.e. the Freecom decoder locks to the 626MHz frequency (steady green LED).
    I can select one of the 2 video programs and preview it.

    Unfortunately the Total Media - ArcSoft program that comes with the receiver cannot decode any of the programs. Whilst scanning the Freecom LED sometimes starts flickering (and the Rx signal shows 4 LEDs out of 6) but never gets steady and none of the programs are detected. Since the only option is autoscanning I cannot force the program to only try 626MHz.
    Any explanation for this behaviour?
    I don't understand why the application plays a role here.

    Thanks.

    geert

    By Anonymous geert.de.raeve, at 24 February 2007 09:16  

  • Hi Geert,

    I'm afraid I don't really know what is going on. It sounds like the device and drivers are installed and functioning correctly if Transedit is finding the channels. I know nothing about the Arcsoft program, do you have DirectX installed for displaying to the desktop?

    I use DVBViewer costing only 15euro with all the functionality you'd expect. As Transedit works OK for you I'm sure DVBViewer would also work. The developer is from Germany and the forums are full of users from Europe. Maybe you could give it a go. Link below.

    DVBViewer

    By Blogger Ricky Dee, at 26 February 2007 21:29  

  • Anyone got Vista drivers?

    By Anonymous Christopher, at 4 March 2007 14:30  

  • So far, the only PVR software that has 'seen' my Freecom stick is the Freecom software, which totally sucks by the way!

    Any tips on how to get it working with something like GBPVR?

    peanutismint at gmail dot com :)

    p.s. I'm seeing a lot of talk about BDA drivers; not sure what they are, but if it helps, I just reformatted and couldn't find my driver disk so i downloaded the latest drivers from the Freecom site, which i believe said something about BDA.

    By Blogger PeanuT, at 11 April 2007 12:45  

  • I've been reading your comments carefully. I have a similar problem trying to make my Yakumo QuickStick TV Easy USB tuner to work on Vista Media Center.

    When I plug the stick Vista detects it and download drivers from Windows Update. Then it's listed on the devices manager as Trident TM6000 TV tuner.

    I can configure Media Center and search for services. But it doesn't find any channels.

    I still don't know what to do to make it to work.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11 June 2007 16:10  

  • Thanks to a combo of this blog and a lot of mucking about (read: blind luck) I've managed to get the BDA drivers working with my Freecom, and have used a number of different software apps with it.

    I can't remember or tell you how, but the problem is getting XP to match up the drivers to the USB. I used the 'Add New Hardware' wizard, then somehow managed to find Freecom (which wasn't there) and it was easy from there. If people are having trouble, try messing with the Add New Hardware wizard and try to get it to use those inf files. Worked for me.

    Thanks again for a great blog entry

    N

    By Blogger Nick, at 27 September 2007 01:53  

  • HI Ricky,

    Nice blog with informative comments.
    Please can you tell me of DVB viewer which is free and works with Freecom DVB-T as i hav lost my CD which had Acrsoft total media on it.

    Thanks.

    By Anonymous sid, at 27 December 2008 22:27  

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